A CUP OR A MUG ? Bra & Clothing Size Charts.

Esjayell

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The Reason Clothes Don't Fit with Bra & Clothing Size Charts.

As some of you know I am looking for a new body for Rosina which has resulted in me searching numerous photo galleries of dolls on almost as many web sites. Whilst doing this a thought came to me. It reminded me of the beauty pageants of the 50s/60s/ & 70s. Think Miss World. For quite a while I continued with my search, writing down the stats of all the dolls I found that would be included on my first shopping list before I do the ‘weeding.’ One of last years (2019) casualties of my cull was the WM 153A. This was dropped because I couldn’t find any nude pics of her.
It was whilst I was compiling the list that I noticed something, something rather intriguing with the measurements. To illustrate what I found let me get the measurements of the 153A.

Bust: 78 (31) Waist: 56 (22) Hips: 82 (32)​

As I thought about the Miss World competition I remembered the ‘ideal’ female ‘hourglass’ shape, their ‘vital statistics’ as they were called then being 36-24-37. If we add 153mm (6”) to the above figures we get:

Bust: 933mm (37) Waist: 713mm (28) Hips: 973mm (38)​

which is not far from the ‘ideal hourglass figure’ of over fifty years ago, except during this time womens sizes have changed dramatically. For example a woman with a bust of 36” now has a waist of 30” and hips of 39.5”according to a well known online store whose sizing charts are below. Incidently these are Womens Fashion Sizes. I have not included (as they weren’t there) size charts for non fashion as most/all of our dolls are “fashionistas.” A 13 year old girl whose height is given as 158cm (66”) has a chest/bust of 85 (33.5”) and a waist of 69 (27.2”).

Trousers/Jeans and Shorts Size charts are also included along with Beachwear and Nightwear. Just to ensure that everything is covered I’ve included a rather accurate, or so its seems, Bra Chart. Measure around the fullest part of the bust, then under the bust (also called Band) keeping the tape level all the way around. Look up the bust size on the left and the under bust along the top, where they intersect is the bra and cup size. Elina tried it out and discovered she is actually an A cup, guess I’ll be going to Primark soon then, if they’re open! Have fun!

Regards S.


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This is useful stuff. It suggests that Alyssa (WM153) is basically a size 8 with a size 6 waist.

It doesn't help right now as I have admitted defeat on trying to get her into a pair of jean shorts that were just a tad too small for her cuddly arse. It's made for an interesting but unproductive afternoon.

She doesn't like bras and certainly doesn't need them with her perky breasts.

Ogsby
 
When manufacturers state cup sizes they lie... Simples.

Just look at a 166C's breast next to a 151C's and straight away you will be shaking your head.

You may find my chart that we used with the Jinsan bodies thread useful



The figures in the chart are not all generally published data but also corrections applied from owners.

The height to weight ratio is my addition. for those wanting taller dolls that don't break your back lifting them thats one of the key measures. General rule there is the lower the ratio the better.

The list hasn't been updated for some time. Nothing under 148 is included and the very newest WM's, YL's and OR's will be missing. I will add those when I get chance.

HTH,

Shamus.
 
The list hasn't been updated for some time. Nothing under 148 is included and the very newest WM's, YL's and OR's will be missing. I will add those when I get chance.

The WM 153 you have does not share the same dimensions as Alyssa. It does seem to have come out in different versions? I don't know.

Still, I'll be looking at this as I ponder over Cat's future.
Ogsby
 
The WM 153 you have does not share the same dimensions as Alyssa. It does seem to have come out in different versions? I don't know.

Still, I'll be looking at this as I ponder over Cat's future.
Ogsby

Hi Ogsby.

Which measurements are different if you don't mind me asking?

I know that she is generally advertised as a B by UK vendors but her actual Jinsan listing has her as an A cup.

All the best,

Shamus.
 
Clothes sizes are a nightmare, they vary from one shop to another. A size 4 from Primark with be completely different to a size 4 for from M&S and bra sizes are even worse.

....and don't get me started on doll measurements from manufacturers/vendors :slaphead

Seriously, the only way to get clothes that fit is by trial and error - stretchy stuff is your friend :tu

That's one of the reasons I try and post the size and make of the outfits my girls wear in their shoots.

Psion
 
Clothes sizes are a nightmare, they vary from one shop to another. A size 4 from Primark with be completely different to a size 4 for from M&S and bra sizes are even worse.

....and don't get me started on doll measurements from manufacturers/vendors :slaphead

Seriously, the only way to get clothes that fit is by trial and error - stretchy stuff is your friend :tu

That's one of the reasons I try and post the size and make of the outfits my girls wear in their shoots.

Psion

Exactly :tu

There is another way around this, but it's a bloody expensive one. :D

Then you can still buy something that won't bloody fit any of them . :wall
 
....and they get fat once they have their feet under the table so none of the sexy clobber fits after a couple of years!

Psion

Oh Psion, I think you got Tommo completely wrong :D A seamstress making clothes to fit is the way to go. Bloody expensive too but will always fit your doll...

As one of the new skills of doll owners we could attend to a sewing course. "How to sew beautiful clothes - from a doll owner" the new bestselling online webcast.

J
 
Hi Ogsby.

Which measurements are different if you don't mind me asking?

I know that she is generally advertised as a B by UK vendors but her actual Jinsan listing has her as an A cup.

All the best,

Shamus.

Hi Shamus
I have finally got my measuring tape out! She has slightly different chest and waist measurements (see the attached picture) to those recorded by Seth, enough I think to make her a B cup!

However she doesn't wear a bra. :twisted:

Ogsby
 

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Hi Shamus
I have finally got my measuring tape out! She has slightly different chest and waist measurements (see the attached picture) to those recorded by Seth, enough I think to make her a B cup!

However she doesn't wear a bra. :twisted:

Ogsby

Hi Ogsby,

some of the breast sizes are very close. Also soft squidgy things on the front can vary slightly plus you also have to factor in that gel breasts and air bags will alter the size a little.

I can't remember are Alissa's standard breasts or enhanced in any way?
 
Hi Ogsby,

some of the breast sizes are very close. Also soft squidgy things on the front can vary slightly plus you also have to factor in that gel breasts and air bags will alter the size a little.

I can't remember are Alissa's standard breasts or enhanced in any way?

Ah yes, they're gel which will make a difference.

Ogsby
 
Ah yes, they're gel which will make a difference.

Ogsby

The mystery resolved :tu

Had a similar conversation with Sam last year comparing angels breasts with the 151C that he had bought that has gel breasts which are more rounded than Angels.

Hope that you are having a good day matey,

All the best,

Shamus
 
The mystery resolved :tu

Had a similar conversation with Sam last year comparing angels breasts with the 151C that he had bought that has gel breasts which are more rounded than Angels.

Hope that you are having a good day matey,

All the best,

Shamus

Just idly looking ... I notice that the WM155A comes in at 5 kg lighter than the 153! But a 40 cm waist? That's very tiny. I'll have to hunt for pictures of that for when my next couple of grand magically appears in my bank account!

Probably best discussed in a different thread.

Ogsby.
 
Just idly looking ... I notice that the WM155A comes in at 5 kg lighter than the 153! But a 40 cm waist? That's very tiny. I'll have to hunt for pictures of that for when my next couple of grand magically appears in my bank account!

Probably best discussed in a different thread.

Ogsby.

There are a couple of WM 155's with very thin waspie waists (A and DD have similar skinny mid sections). Not my cup of tea as they don't seem as realistic as girls with a bit more meat on their bones. But it REALLY! keeps their weight down. i.e. the WM 155A is only 26kg which combined with A cups may cause issues with importing.

If you are looking at A cup 155's take a look instead at the YL155A whose figure isn't a million miles from the WM153A.




Be careful though that the vendor knows what they are advertising as with the YL 155A there are two variants so ensure that they know which one they are ordering. The A or the A Custom.

Shamus.
 
I'd quibble quite a few of those WM 157B measurements in the table. Even the B cup part isn't really correct :)
 
I'd quibble quite a few of those WM 157B measurements in the table. Even the B cup part isn't really correct :)

Hi Matt,

Do you have your measurements and Hannah's DOB. We could then perhaps compare her against say Algaes and Tommo's 157B's. Again hopefully with dates of birth.

The number of that model they make it would not surprise me at all if they have had to remake the mould.

I've certainly pondered myself Hannahs breasts compared to Allies or Gingers.

I'll have money on it that we end up with at least two different sets of stats and it would also not surprise me if the changeover happened at arround the same time as the move from the older TPE to the modern Jinsan TPE blends.

All the best,

Shamus.
 
These are the measurements I have. Some of them are significantly different. She was born in Augus 2018.

Bust: 66/67 cm
Underbust: 53/54 cm
Waist: 49 cm
Hips: 77 cm
Shoulder to shoulder: 30cm
Clavicle to crotch: 51cm
Crotch to ankle: 72cm
Shoulder to wrist: 53cm

The 5 inch difference between her bust and underbust would make her more like a DD cup technically, although she does tend to wear B cups since I have to get much bigger band sizes. Hard to say though since there seem to be a billion conflicting ways of calculating it for some reason.
 
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